Exactly.bobbydriver wrote:Also pointed out on Hoffman that 27th was Thanksgiving. Would the venue have been open on Thanksgiving? Would the band have stayed out on the West Coast or gone home to their families for a few days? Then would they have come back out a few days later for another 3 dates Dec 1-3rd? It's all a puzzle for surernranimal wrote: I don't think it can be accurate that these come from two dates but are just highlights. I think the set comes from numerous dates. Also, on the hoffman forum, it was pointed out that the 27th date wasn't even listed on the ad for the shows.
I think the only thing we can be certain of is that the songs don't just come from the dates 26/27th
The setlists from the uncirculated 3rd Dec reels
http://olivier.landemaine.free.fr/vu/li ... erf69.html
show that they played two totally different sets per night, whereas the 4 "sets" on the Matrix box are littered with repetition. Also coincidentally each "set" is circa 70 minutes and fits conveniently on a CD
There's also this.
November 11, 1969
Unknown location, San Francisco, California
Tape: audience recording by Robert Quine. Source: Dispatches From The Dream Factory - Disc 3 (1-2).
Waiting For The Man (6:16)
[cut] White Light/ White Heat (5:45)
Quine handed over a cassette with the two songs, and ONLY these two songs, that was was dated 11/11/69. The legend goes that the November 11 performance was an outdoor gig, maybe by the beach South of San Francisco. However White Light/White Heat is edited from an audience recording version of the track available on 1969 Velvet Underground Live. So the "unknown location" is probably The Matrix.
I think there's a real good chance The Matrix Tapes include some performances from the 11/11-17 stay as well as later dates.