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Re: Favourite Cale-Era Bootlegs

Post by Elvis Plebsley » 02 Jun 2019 21:31

iaredatsun wrote:
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Is the best version of the 'Nico Crying Reel' music from the Raro DVD?
It suffers with the bleed through of Ondine's overlapping monologue. The most complete version is from a single screen version that I obtained on dvdr a long while back. Unfortunately, like the Raro Video dvd, it cuts the exit music from the end of the film. The best version of that is found on a single sided lp from a couple of years back. I have a lossy copy of that.

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Post by Elvis Plebsley » 02 Jun 2019 21:42

Currently listening to Symphony of Sound, that would be on my list.

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Re: Favourite Cale-Era Bootlegs

Post by iaredatsun » 03 Jun 2019 23:21

Elvis Plebsley wrote:
02 Jun 2019 21:31
iaredatsun wrote:
02 Jun 2019 15:16
Is the best version of the 'Nico Crying Reel' music from the Raro DVD?
It suffers with the bleed through of Ondine's overlapping monologue. The most complete version is from a single screen version that I obtained on dvdr a long while back. Unfortunately, like the Raro Video dvd, it cuts the exit music from the end of the film. The best version of that is found on a single sided lp from a couple of years back. I have a lossy copy of that.
Thank-you. I have the LP.
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Re: Favourite Cale-Era Bootlegs

Post by iaredatsun » 04 Jun 2019 00:38

Elvis Plebsley wrote:
02 Jun 2019 21:31
iaredatsun wrote:
02 Jun 2019 15:16
Is the best version of the 'Nico Crying Reel' music from the Raro DVD?
It suffers with the bleed through of Ondine's overlapping monologue. The most complete version is from a single screen version that I obtained on dvdr a long while back. Unfortunately, like the Raro Video dvd, it cuts the exit music from the end of the film. The best version of that is found on a single sided lp from a couple of years back. I have a lossy copy of that.
The single sided LP I have sounds pretty bad. Very muffled, like it has been recorded in a cinema auditorium on a mic. Is that the same as your recording?

It's a bit annoying to listen to Pope Ondine talking whilst the music plays, but the music is much clearer on the Raro DVD
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Re: Favourite Cale-Era Bootlegs

Post by Elvis Plebsley » 04 Jun 2019 16:16

iaredatsun wrote: The single sided LP I have sounds pretty bad. Very muffled, like it has been recorded in a cinema auditorium on a mic. Is that the same as your recording?

It's a bit annoying to listen to Pope Ondine talking whilst the music plays, but the music is much clearer on the Raro DVD
I reckon it is. It's definitely an 'audience' recording. Despite its flaws, it's miles better than the version I had for years. It's the same recording, but many generations further removed.

If memory serves, I contacted Raro when they were working on Chelsea Girls, trying to persuade them to make all the music available, with separate channels for Ondine /Nico and keeping all the Exit Music on the soundtrack. Looked promising at first, but in the end they went with what we have.

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Re: Favourite Cale-Era Bootlegs

Post by iaredatsun » 05 Jun 2019 01:01

Elvis Plebsley wrote:
04 Jun 2019 16:16
iaredatsun wrote: The single sided LP I have sounds pretty bad. Very muffled, like it has been recorded in a cinema auditorium on a mic. Is that the same as your recording?

It's a bit annoying to listen to Pope Ondine talking whilst the music plays, but the music is much clearer on the Raro DVD
I reckon it is. It's definitely an 'audience' recording. Despite its flaws, it's miles better than the version I had for years. It's the same recording, but many generations further removed.

If memory serves, I contacted Raro when they were working on Chelsea Girls, trying to persuade them to make all the music available, with separate channels for Ondine /Nico and keeping all the Exit Music on the soundtrack. Looked promising at first, but in the end they went with what we have.
Odd, isn't it? The DVD has a stereo audio track (according to box), and they could have easily separated them (assuming they were given each side of the film as separate files/reels). Perhaps it was all already mixed down to mono? I was hopeful at first. At least you gave it a shot. :)
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Re: Favourite Cale-Era Bootlegs

Post by Mark » 05 Jun 2019 12:20

From Chelsea Girls, a single screen version of Marie Menken/the Gerard Malanga Story:

https://youtu.be/lFvAoL6rQjw

And Nico Crying (sadly without the chunga-chunga instrumental section):

https://youtu.be/TBOeTMAC09U
https://youtu.be/g0mIXf4C70o

It's too bad UMG didn't strike a deal with the Warhol museum to use some of the audio here on VU&N 45th. More interesting, imo, than the Factory Rehearsal bits.
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Re: Favourite Cale-Era Bootlegs

Post by Low » 05 Jun 2019 13:12

Mark wrote:
05 Jun 2019 12:20
It's too bad UMG didn't strike a deal with the Warhol museum to use some of the audio here on VU&N 45th. More interesting, imo, than the Factory Rehearsal bits.
Agree, it's a shame they didn't include any of the soundtracks at all.

Here's a short segment from the Nico Icon documentary in better quality. Would be real nice to hear the full reel sounding like that!
https://youtu.be/R1vkiQdEU7M?t=2471

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Re: Favourite Cale-Era Bootlegs

Post by iaredatsun » 05 Jun 2019 13:38

We need another boxset. The Cale and Soundtrack Years.
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