Bootleg with AI...

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peppergomez
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Re: Bootleg with AI...

Post by peppergomez » 03 Dec 2023 02:48

I am the table! wrote:
28 Nov 2023 16:53
If AI could be used to create a vocal-less Live MCMXCIII, that would be a Very Great Thing.
Nice. Agreed. Or to put Reeds vocals from VU era when he could actually sing.

urchinn
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Re: Bootleg with AI...

Post by urchinn » 06 Dec 2023 15:07

C'mon...we would all buy any new edition of Max's material! Just adding another 1/8th of an inch to our VU vinyl collection makes me happy! Anyway...if Peter Jackson's computer-aided release of The Beatles Star-Club material is profitable, then we will see much more interest in this kinda thing. Bring it on...

bobbydriver
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Re: Bootleg with AI...

Post by bobbydriver » 15 Dec 2023 12:15

peppergomez wrote:
03 Dec 2023 02:48
I am the table! wrote:
28 Nov 2023 16:53
If AI could be used to create a vocal-less Live MCMXCIII, that would be a Very Great Thing.
Nice. Agreed. Or to put Reeds vocals from VU era when he could actually sing.
Joking aside, I could probably live with Lou's 1990s "shiny shiny" vocal extemporisations if the mix of the music had been given any kind of balls. It all just sounded so clean and nice, so the fact that Lou was avoiding the actual vocal melodies like an ex at a party was really the final insult

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Re: Bootleg with AI...

Post by hkmartin » 16 Dec 2023 03:39

Chelsea Girl with the flutes and the hokey orchestration removed could be interesting.

bobbydriver
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Re: Bootleg with AI...

Post by bobbydriver » 21 Dec 2023 19:34

some guy did demix the Chelsea Girl LP a couple of years back to remove the flutes - was definitely interesting. Not sure if it's still online anywhere. His name was Allan Okada

fletchercjohnson
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Re: Bootleg with AI...

Post by fletchercjohnson » 22 Dec 2023 02:12

The blog "Albums That Should Exist" has used the new AI technology to increase the vocals on both nights of End of Cole Avenue and it came out pretty good! The first night was always pretty unlistenable because of the low vocals. This new version is not perfect but it's a lot better. You can find them here:

10/18/69: https://albumsthatshouldexist.blogspot. ... ve_11.html

10/19/69: https://albumsthatshouldexist.blogspot. ... e-ave.html

They also did Live at Max's but I haven't checked that one out

Ancar
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Re: Bootleg with AI...

Post by Ancar » 28 Dec 2023 21:13

The result is good. I would like to hear the same treatment in more important recordings, for me, like the one in 66 with Nico and the live in the gymnasium

ybosde2
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Re: Bootleg with AI...

Post by ybosde2 » 06 Jan 2024 12:39

The "Albums That Should Exist" site makes heavy use of the free Ultimate Vocal Remover (UVR5) tool.
https://ultimatevocalremover.com

I had a quick play around with it using the default settings to extract the vocals from a couple of VU tracks, boost them in Audacity and then remix them with the instrumental stem.

The tracks I picked were:
1) "Guess I'm Fallin' in Love" (the studio/live mix uploaded to YouTube several years ago) &
2) "I'm Gonna Move Right In" (Boston Tea Party, 10 January 1969)

Here are the results:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Wf0jdu ... sp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/11XA5V2 ... sp=sharing

They sound pretty good to me. :)

Ancar
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Re: Bootleg with AI...

Post by Ancar » 09 Jan 2024 22:29

Good result!. The musical part should be balanced and strengthened because as we listen to it now they are disconnected. However, the amateur result is fantastic

ybosde2
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Re: Bootleg with AI...

Post by ybosde2 » 10 Jan 2024 00:40

Ancar wrote:
09 Jan 2024 22:29
Good result!. The musical part should be balanced and strengthened because as we listen to it now they are disconnected. However, the amateur result is fantastic
Yeah. The real strength of UVR5 is how cleanly it separates and extracts the vocals even if they're buried deeply in the mix. It provides a lot of potential for someone who knows what they're doing (i.e.: not me) to get some interesting results.

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