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Re: Differences Between VU Releases/Reissues

Posted: 19 Apr 2010 22:34
by iaredatsun
And what about that Promo cassette tape of VU that someone nice posted somewhere? There's some stuff going on in there I hadn't heard before.

Re: Differences Between VU Releases/Reissues

Posted: 20 Apr 2010 09:54
by Elvis Plebsley
MJG196 wrote:I don't know if I am hallucinating, but it sounded to me like the piano starts loud, then fades slightly into the first verse, then picks up again on the MFSL. It seems to be pretty even on the Deluxe Edition. However, I listened to it so many times, I may have been "tricking" my own ears!
To further muddy the IWFTM water here, isn't there a different emphasis on the guitar? On the Universal remaster I hear more emphasis on the "da da da da..." downstrokes. This surprised me when I first hear it because it overwhelmed the "cha chaaa" guitar fill which I knew from my vinyl. On the mfsl this has been fully restored. I also think that you can better hear some of the drones that Cale creates through his piano playing on ATP (think Charlemagne Palestine). However, I'd tsay that the Universal remaster has a little more power in the drums and the bass. To simplify grossly, the mfsl master emphasises the arty weirdness, the Universal emphasises the rock. I'll be keeping both.

Re: Differences Between VU Releases/Reissues

Posted: 20 Apr 2010 10:11
by Elvis Plebsley
schnittstelle wrote:The differences of the Valentin- and Closet-mix aside. Did anyone find much sonic improvement in any of the releases of the third LP?
There's a white label promo which has a different "dryer" version of Lou's closet mix. I have a CDr from a tape of the vinyl, but there aint that much in it

Re: Differences Between VU Releases/Reissues

Posted: 21 Apr 2010 22:21
by schnittstelle
Image

Velvet Underground & Nico: Rarities Edition CD

1. Sunday Morning - (mono)
2. I'm Waiting For the Man - (mono)
3. Femme Fatale - (mono)
4. Venus In Furs - (mono)
5. Run Run Run - (mono)
6. All Tomorrow's Parties - (mono)
7. Heroin - (mono)
8. There She Goes Again - (mono)
9. I'll Be Your Mirror - (mono)
10. Black Angel's Death Song - (mono)
11. European Son - (mono)
12. All Tomorrow's Parties [Mono Single Version] - (mono)
13. I'll Be Your Mirror [Alternate Ending (Mono)] - (alternate take, mono)
14. Sunday Morning [Mono Single Version] - (mono)
15. Femme Fatale [Mono Single Version] - (mono)


new VU&N mono rarities scheduled to release on Tuesday, April 27, 2010

Re: Differences Between VU Releases/Reissues

Posted: 22 Apr 2010 03:33
by velvetfan
schnittstelle wrote:Image

Velvet Underground & Nico: Rarities Edition CD

1. Sunday Morning - (mono)
2. I'm Waiting For the Man - (mono)
3. Femme Fatale - (mono)
4. Venus In Furs - (mono)
5. Run Run Run - (mono)
6. All Tomorrow's Parties - (mono)
7. Heroin - (mono)
8. There She Goes Again - (mono)
9. I'll Be Your Mirror - (mono)
10. Black Angel's Death Song - (mono)
11. European Son - (mono)
12. All Tomorrow's Parties [Mono Single Version] - (mono)


13. I'll Be Your Mirror [Alternate Ending (Mono)] - (alternate take, mono)
14. Sunday Morning [Mono Single Version] - (mono)
15. Femme Fatale [Mono Single Version] - (mono)


new VU&N mono rarities scheduled to release on Tuesday, April 27, 2010

http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=8170521 An affordable release for a change. $10.74

Re: Differences Between VU Releases/Reissues

Posted: 22 Apr 2010 11:51
by MJG196
Is there anything new on there, or is it compiled from a number of available sources?

Re: Differences Between VU Releases/Reissues

Posted: 22 Apr 2010 12:20
by schnittstelle
I did check some more and it is the exact same track listing as CD 2 of the VU&N deluxe edition.
A funny repackaging job?

Re: Differences Between VU Releases/Reissues

Posted: 22 Apr 2010 15:11
by bobbldr
... more regurgitation...

Re: Differences Between VU Releases/Reissues

Posted: 22 Apr 2010 16:24
by schnittstelle
Yeah, first we make a twofer and then split it in two... :lol:

Re: Differences Between VU Releases/Reissues

Posted: 23 Apr 2010 15:51
by Elvis Plebsley
iaredatsun wrote:
Elvis Plebsley wrote:As far as VU&N and WLWH, I agree with you, I can't hear any difference between the shm and the Universal remasters. It is VU, Another View and 1969 where a difference can be found.
You make me want them. I especially like your description of Guess I'm Falling in Love ? one of my favourite post WLWH pre-3rd Cale tracks.


Is it worth saying how much better Stephanie Says sounds on the 'Velvet Underground Story'. The mix really brings out the idea of that off-centre flat sound that Cale introduced into their work ? especially in the 'off' backing vocals which were de-emaphasised in the 80's version.
Hi iaredatsun (and anyone else who's following this obsessive's listening post),

I've just been looking back at the SHM Update thread and noticed that Olivier posted that he could detect no difference between the original CD and the SHM of Another View. Maybe I'm going nuts. So, caveat emptor and all that.