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I've heard Put Your Money Down, and I can't think of any reason not to include it.I assume the tracklisting of the tape on Olivier's site came from the NYPL? In which case "Put Your Money Down" is the only song not included in your tracklist. Weird - given there seem to be 3 versions on the tape?
It's not my tracklist, and it's not taken from olivier landemaine's site – it's the one from this month's Mojo magazine, where they discuss the well-known about copyright tape in context of the 'Words and Music May 1965' album release from Light in The Attic. Sorry if that was not clear from my opening post. Having the mojo magazine now in front of me, I see that there is actually no indication whether the list is the actual tracklist of the album. It looks more like just a selection that the journalist wanted to describe for their reader. So, the list is a bit of a red-herring and who knows what will be on the released album.bobbydriver wrote: ↑20 May 2022 15:50 I assume the tracklisting of the tape on Olivier's site came from the NYPL? In which case "Put Your Money Down" is the only song not included in your tracklist. Weird - given there seem to be 3 versions on the tape?
http://olivier.landemaine.free.fr/vu/an ... tudio.html
Track 1:
Men Of Good Fortune
Heroin
Put your Money Down
Buttercup or Never Get Emotionally Involved With A Man, Woman, Beast, or Child
Walk Alone
I'm Waiting For The Man
Too Late
Pale Blue Eyes
Stockpile
Buzz Buzz Buzz
Wrap Your Troubles In Dreams (sung by John Cale)
Track 2:
I'm Waiting For The Man
Put Your Money Down On The Table
Put Your Money Down On The Table
Too Late
Pale Blue Eyes
[Electric Guitar Noise]
[Instrumental Jam]
[original audio that was taped over. Someone named Roz making a mix tape for "Jack"]
Stockpile
Buzz Buzz Buzz
Wrap Your Troubles In Dreams (sung by John Cale)
I think bobbydriver is just pointing out that the tape at the NYPL contains three different versions of "Put Your Money Down".I'm not sure what you mean when you describe three versions of the tape.
'Weird - given there seem to be 3 versions on the tape?'hkmartin wrote: ↑20 May 2022 17:28I think bobbydriver is just pointing out that the tape at the NYPL contains three different versions of "Put Your Money Down".I'm not sure what you mean when you describe three versions of the tape.
Also, rethinking the post I just made, I think the '(2)' after Waiting in your post probably just means the second version. I had read it as meaning there was one version at the beginning and two at the end, making a total of three, which is one two many.
I've heard the versions from the copyright tape, and, to be honest, I'm not certain if they are the source of the Facebook snippet. That said, it sounds like it's speculation on Olivier's part that it's from the lost demo tape and not from the copyright tape. I went back and found the Facebook post, and they just said it's from "the Lou Reed Archive Team". You'd think that if they had the lost demo tape, it would be part of the NYPL archives (which it's not). My guess is that Olivier is mistaken.I have a related question. Olivier's site says that the version of Never Get Emotionally Involved With A Man Woman or Child which appeared on Face Book, was from the infamous thought-lost-sent-to-England demo tape. However the same song (labelled as Buttercup) is also on the May 65 copyright tape as in the NYL archive. So what makes it probable or possible that the Face Book Never Get... snippet was from that lost demo tape and not from the copyright tape. Does that quesion make sense?
Many thanks. This is interesting. No doubt it's going to be a landmark release, but I'm a bit surprised it's presented like the first CD in the "Peel Slowly And See" set did not exist. We already heard that folk sound there, over 25 years ago.Sheila Klein wrote: ↑20 May 2022 23:17 Mojo article: http://songpoemmusic.com/vuforum/Mojo_Jun22_VU.pdf