The Velvet Forum

As posted in madcapslaughing yahoogroups:

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Tony Conrad lives here in town. I met him once--he was picketing LaMonte Young's concert. LaMonte had been sitting on the Theatre of Eternal Music tapes for decades and Tony and John were still pissed at him for it. (I turned up and gave him the one TEM cassette I had, from a public radio broadcast.)

He told me he used to have a tape of The Primitives in rehearsal, presumably running through "Do The Ostrich." The quality wasn't great but it was listenable. He mentioned it to Cale, who freaked out and demanded that Tony send it to him. "And don't let anybody hear it!!!" So he did. We probably won't get to hear that for awhile, but it does exist.

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Let's picket John Cale's concert. John Cale had been sitting on the The Velvet Underground tapes for decades and fans are pissed at him for it.

Let's hope we'll hear this on a future volume of the Bootleg Series. Yeah, right.

Perfect for the 3rd LP release!

ferges wrote:Let's picket John Cale's concert. John Cale had been sitting on the The Velvet Underground tapes for decades and fans are pissed at him for it.

are you sure Cale has tapes?

gazatthebop wrote:

ferges wrote:Let's picket John Cale's concert. John Cale had been sitting on the The Velvet Underground tapes for decades and fans are pissed at him for it.

are you sure Cale has tapes?

We know he had the Gymnasium live tape and there's still at least one song (Walk It and Talk it) that never surfaced. Then there's this story that sounds convincing:

http://www.velvetforum.com/viewtopic.ph ... ony+conrad

There's also this note on the mighty Olandem site re the 1965 tape that's on PS&s:

This demo tape was discovered by John Cale in his basement. "There's still stuff down there that I just haven't had the heart to... rummage around in," Cale says. "I knew, kind of, which boxes had what in them. I picked one and took it to Polygram. I was wrong. What I was given back on a DAT was not what I thought was on that tape at all."