VPRO

Vpro · Post by **Vpro** » 01 Apr 2005 13:01

Ive been hearing about these VPRO tapes. Anyone know more?>

lostblues · Post by **lostblues** » 01 Apr 2005 14:11

this one's for Arjan.
Arjan?!

arjan · Post by **arjan** » 01 Apr 2005 19:39

lostblues wrote:this one's for Arjan.
Arjan?!

No time now, but will respond later. For quick reference, see Olivier's comments at the 1971 gigs page.

kkq486x · Post by **kkq486x** » 02 Apr 2005 10:47

Is this what is mentioned as the VPRO-tapes: http://3voor12.vpro.nl/3voor12/maps/pro ... es=8049524

It is Nico 11-3-1972+ The Velvet Underground 19-11-1971 Concertgebouw (Amsterdam)

arjan · Post by **arjan** » 02 Apr 2005 19:36

kkq486x wrote:Is this what is mentioned as the VPRO-tapes

Yeah -- partly.

When the Velvet Underground came to play the Amsterdam Concertgebouw on November 19, 1971, not only was their show recorded by an audience member (the source for the Amsterdam 1971 bootleg LP, the Live in Amsterdam bootleg CD and Disc 2 of the legit Final V.U. Japanese CD box set issued by Captain Trip), but a soundboard recording was also made by the Dutch progressive broadcasting corporation VPRO. They broadcast some/all of it at the time (which formed the basis for the Final V.U. "FM" recordings), and archived the recordings.

Come the Captain Trip box, and I wondered if those soundboard tapes would still be around. I mailed the VPRO and they redirected me to the NAA (Nederlands Audio-Visueel Archief, "Dutch Audio-Visual Archives", nowadays called Beeld en Geluid, "Sound and Vision".

To cut a long story short -- yes the tapes still exist and B&G is prepared to cut CD-R's for anyone who cares to pay for the technical conversion costs involved. So I requested a copy (at a steep fee, you don't want to know) and it's fantastic. Little crowd sounds unfortunately as VPRO apparently had no audience mics lined up, but the music's crystal clear and superb.

My request (and perhaps those of others, I posted a message on the yellow board back then how to order a copy, but I don't know if there were any takers/suckers other than me) must've woken someone up

because a few months later, VPRO broadcast the program you mention, including a few (but not all) of the soundboard recordings they made back then, interspersed with 1972 Nico recordings.

leebee · Post by **leebee** » 05 Apr 2005 18:00

This recording is being traded? I would like to try to make a mix matrix of the FM recording and the audience tape, perhaps on Sonic Foundry or Vegas - could get some very nice results.

arjan · Post by **arjan** » 05 Apr 2005 21:21

leebee wrote:This recording is being traded? I would like to try to make a mix matrix of the FM recording and the audience tape, perhaps on Sonic Foundry or Vegas - could get some very nice results.

A mix matrix? That would be something like an overlay of one recording over the other (excuse my technical ignorance)? That would be very interesting, as the audience tape is full of atmosphere but a little muffled at times, whereas the soundboard recordings have almost no audience/room. And it might give us an opportunity to salvage/restore I'm Waiting for the Man, which is simply awesome but whose soundboard recording lacks some bits due to the engineer singling out one instrument after another to get his levels right.

Send me a PM -- I can set you up with a couple of the soundboard tracks from that VPRO 2002 re-broadcast.