how many versions of sister ray

bleach · Post by **bleach** » 29 Jan 2005 03:49

Well spotted Cuckoo, I was waiting for someone to bring that point up - but seriously, are we really sure they are 'unknown' snippets could they possibly just be edited sections of other versions.

Some of the SRs are 30 mins long - I would find it difficult to identify a 30 sec edit from them.. I suppose the tell tale sign would be the actually sound/level qualitys within the recording, which is much easier to identify within say a sound programme like Peak etc..

For someone to really prove these unidentified fragments either way they would need all known SRs to hand, anyone got a few days to spare?

lurid_uk · Post by **lurid_uk** » 31 Jan 2005 00:42

over the years i've listened to all the SRs listed before, but none of them sound anything like the source for the "hidden" snippets. The "hidden" stuff has a different sound and feel - it's hard to describe. My guess is that someone has a copy of John Cale's tapes from Gymnasium 1967, and is just teasing us with these little bits...i'd sure like to hear the rest

Chance · Post by **Chance** » 31 Jan 2005 04:50

lurid_uk wrote:My guess is that someone has a copy of John Cale's tapes from Gymnasium 1967, and is just teasing us with these little bits...

The whole show no doubt on two discs hidden away in a file drawer marked "Fluffernutter Devices"...

(Cue Kinks "Rosie Won't You Please Come Home")

tarbaby2 · Post by **tarbaby2** » 31 Jan 2005 18:52

Thanks to Bleach for the listing above. It turns out that I have more versions than I thought I had. All are mp3's though. Oh well, better to have them in some form than in no form at all.

I did come across several listings for Sister Ray that I do not have and wondered if anyone has a copy or
knows if they exist:

April 26-27 - "Searchin" (early version of Sister Ray? - Searchin for my mailine...) Boston Tea Party (last show with Nico)
Dec. 1, 1968 - Sister Ray (18.33) Music Hall, Cleveland, Ohio
March 13, 1969 - Sister Ray/Murder Mystery (22.05) Boston Tea Party
Summer 1969 - Sister Ray (+45.00) Electric Factory, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
July 11, 1969 - Sister Ray/Murder Mystery (20.37) Boston Tea Party
October 1969 - Sister Ray - Music Hall, Cleveland, Ohio
October 23-25, 1969 - Sister Ray (+45.00) Vulcan Gas Co., Austin, Texas

Any info would be appreciated.

simonm · Post by **simonm** » 31 Jan 2005 22:19

tarbaby2 wrote:wondered if anyone has a copy or
knows if they exist:
Any info would be appreciated.

I have
Dec. 1, 1968 - Sister Ray (18.33) Music Hall, Cleveland, Ohio
March 13, 1969 - Sister Ray/Murder Mystery (22.05) Boston Tea Party
July 11, 1969 - Sister Ray/Murder Mystery (20.37) Boston Tea Party

I think the Oct 69 Cleveland show might also be circulating - but v poor quality....

tarbaby2 · Post by **tarbaby2** » 01 Feb 2005 00:41

simonm,

I don't know if you're into Neil Young or not... But I just managed to separate out the audio tracks from the Greendale DVD that came with the original CD.

He's playing the entire Greendale set acoustically - no Crazy Horse. I don't think many people have this version because of it being on the DVD and not available in just audio format.

I have it in .ogg and mp3 files.

Let me know if you are interested.

tarbaby2 · Post by **tarbaby2** » 11 Feb 2005 07:11

Simonm ---

I have since managed to get hold of the July 69 version. Is there any way I could coax either the Cleveland or BTP versions out of you? They are the only versions I don't have.

simonm · Post by **simonm** » 11 Feb 2005 09:42

ok - I'll try uploading these to YouSendIt.com - they host a free but limited download for a week, or I could send the files to the email account I set up for the Max's rehearsal if that still works - brigidpolktapedtheworld@yahoo.com (password is maxskansascity)
Will report back tonight.
S

tarbaby2 · Post by **tarbaby2** » 12 Feb 2005 22:42

Thanks, I'm not sure how to use YouSendIt.com - but I was able to get the Max's Rehearsal stuff off of the yahoo site. I know it's just them messing around but some of it sounds pretty cool!!

tarbaby2 · Post by **tarbaby2** » 13 Feb 2005 02:26

What about the "Swan" version I heard about? Does anyone have that? Where is it from and what makes it different?