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Re: Lou Reed Demos
Posted: 27 Apr 2021 23:49
by hkmartin
Seems pretty similar to this tape in the archives:
1970 Acoustic Demos and 1971 Solo Demos
All songs this Side 1-9 [Lou Reed Solo Acoustic Demos] 1971
I'm So Free
Going Down
Ride Into The Sun
Goodnight Ladies
I Can't Stand It
I Love You
Oh, Jim
Lisa Says
Kill Your Sons
http://archives.nypl.org/mus/24078#detailed
I did not have a chance to listen to this when I was there a few years ago, so I can't say if these demos were done in a studio.
Re: Lou Reed Demos
Posted: 28 Apr 2021 16:55
by Sheila Klein
My guess is that the posting was meant to bring some public pressure on Reed's estate to purchase the tapes from them.
Re: Lou Reed Demos
Posted: 28 Apr 2021 17:03
by iaredatsun
Elvis Plebsley wrote: ↑27 Apr 2021 23:46
Hasn't it already been mentioned that 2 of the tracks were on
Transformer as bonus tracks?
Yes but as you say, that's just two tracks.
Re: Lou Reed Demos
Posted: 29 Apr 2021 00:04
by Elvis Plebsley
iaredatsun wrote: ↑28 Apr 2021 17:03
Yes but as you say, that's just two tracks.
I feel like I'm missing something essential in this conversation. How can the tracks have appeared on the album, if Lou's estate/the record company does not have the tape?
But, that aside, the original point I was making is that Omega probably include the warning to inform purchasers that possession of a tape of a recording, even if it is the only copy in existence, does not grant copyright to the material on it. They are letting potential buyers know that they should not buy the tape with an expectation that they will be able to exploit the material on it.
Re: Lou Reed Demos
Posted: 29 Apr 2021 01:56
by lurid
Elvis Plebsley wrote: ↑29 Apr 2021 00:04
iaredatsun wrote: ↑28 Apr 2021 17:03
Yes but as you say, that's just two tracks.
I feel like I'm missing something essential in this conversation. How can the tracks have appeared on the album, if Lou's estate/the record company does not have the tape?
But, that aside, the original point I was making is that Omega probably include the warning to inform purchasers that possession of a tape of a recording, even if it is the only copy in existence, does not grant copyright to the material on it. They are letting potential buyers know that they should not buy the tape with an expectation that they will be able to exploit the material on it.
I am sure that the record company hold the master copy of this tape - this is presumably a copy provided by Lou to the LP cover artist so as to provide "inspiration/context" for the artwork.
Re: Lou Reed Demos
Posted: 29 Apr 2021 08:14
by lurid
Mark wrote: ↑25 Apr 2021 23:11
Pretty cool. Lou Reed (1972) deluxe edition perhaps?
Does anyone well-versed in these things know if any of the tracks match up with the versions already in circulation?
Deluxe edition? Stuff that! Slap the contents of these tapes onto a 2LP/2CD set, provide a small booklet with contemporary photos and a contextual essay, call it "Lou Reed 1971/1972 Demos" and I'll buy it tomorrow.
That solo acoustic version of "Ocean" blows the official studio version away completely.
Re: Lou Reed Demos
Posted: 29 Apr 2021 11:09
by iaredatsun
Elvis Plebsley wrote: ↑29 Apr 2021 00:04
iaredatsun wrote: ↑28 Apr 2021 17:03
Yes but as you say, that's just two tracks.
I feel like I'm missing something essential in this conversation. How can the tracks have appeared on the album, if Lou's estate/the record company does not have the tape?
But, that aside, the original point I was making is that Omega probably include the warning to inform purchasers that possession of a tape of a recording, even if it is the only copy in existence, does not grant copyright to the material on it. They are letting potential buyers know that they should not buy the tape with an expectation that they will be able to exploit the material on it.
I'm not denying that they (the estate) have a copy, but they need to extend copyright on them before the end of the 50 yr mark. If not, and after that, the current owner can use them.
Re: Lou Reed Demos
Posted: 29 Dec 2021 17:46
by CRJ
I think these were released on Xmas Eve on iTunes. I don't have iTunes myself so can't check. There's a thread on Hoffman.
https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/ ... es.1125125
Re: Lou Reed Demos
Posted: 29 Dec 2021 18:55
by bleach
Can confirm they're still on UK iTunes and the sound quality is really good.
Re: Lou Reed Demos
Posted: 30 Dec 2021 01:00
by iaredatsun
I've just downloaded them now.
I'm So Free – The 1971 RCA Demos
This artwork does not list all 17 tracks.
