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In the "TV appearances" page of Olivier's site it quotes 8th July.

lurid wrote: ↑16 Apr 2021 19:44 In the "TV appearances" page of Olivier's site it quotes 8th July.

It does, but that's also where the "early 67" quote is from. Unterberger also lists a possible Upbeat performance on 8th Jan, and specifically links it to GIFIL. Maybe this is that performance, but who knows?

Kill Mick wrote: ↑16 Apr 2021 20:11

lurid wrote: ↑16 Apr 2021 19:44 In the "TV appearances" page of Olivier's site it quotes 8th July.

It does, but that's also where the "early 67" quote is from. Unterberger also lists a possible Upbeat performance on 8th Jan, and specifically links it to GIFIL. Maybe this is that performance, but who knows?

We obviously need more info from whoever uploaded this to YouTube. Me and Mr Datsun have both made comments asking questions - let's see if he responds.

Didn't they appear on the show three times between '67-'68?

peppergomez wrote: ↑16 Apr 2021 21:01 Didn't they appear on the show three times between '67-'68?

According to Unterberger, yes.

peppergomez wrote: ↑16 Apr 2021 21:01 Didn't they appear on the show three times between '67-'68?

yes I see now that Unterberger quotes a TV Guide reference to an Upbeat appearance on 8th January 1967. This version of the song certainly seems slightly less "finished" than the April 67 Gymnasium recording(s) so maybe it is indeed from that date.

I too feel like it must be pre-gymnasium. The unfinished lyrics are the biggest clue. Though there is at least one instance of him improvising lyrics to an already finished song, Pale Blue Eyes. But on this performance of GIFIL he’s actually using non-words to fill some lines which to me suggests a brand new and unfinished song.

I agree

But would they play a new/unfinished song on a TV show?

lurid wrote: ↑16 Apr 2021 23:01 But would they play a new/unfinished song on a TV show?

Only if they were the most anti-establishment, anti-everything band in the history of human-kind...