Words and Music May 1965 - Lou Reed

[Kill Mick]

Who's playing harmonica on this? I assume it's Cale, but not aware he ever played it any other time?

[hkmartin]

Rolling Stone review, which, oddly, includes "Put Your Money Down on the Table," which, though it is on the Copyright tape, is not included on the LITA release: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/musi ... 234590523/

[Kill Mick]

Rolling Stone review, which, oddly, includes "Put Your Money Down on the Table," which, though it is on the Copyright tape, is not included on the LITA release: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/musi ... 234590523/

I wonder if that's going to be on one of the physical releases? The Observer review also mentions the Dylan cover (Don't Think Twice, It's Alright) which not only isn't on the digital release but isn't from this session. I suspect they sent out CD/vinyl copies to be reviewed, with extra tracks?

[DavidH]

Is this going to be like 'Live At Max's' where we'll need to track down a promo to get the whole thing?

[hkmartin]

Rolling Stone review, which, oddly, includes "Put Your Money Down on the Table," which, though it is on the Copyright tape, is not included on the LITA release: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/musi ... 234590523/

I wonder if that's going to be on one of the physical releases? The Observer review also mentions the Dylan cover (Don't Think Twice, It's Alright) which not only isn't on the digital release but isn't from this session. I suspect they sent out CD/vinyl copies to be reviewed, with extra tracks?

"Don't Think Twice" is known. It's on the 7" that comes with the Deluxe version of "Words & Music". Not from the Copyright tape, but from an earlier tape of "Lou Reed Playing Cover Songs" that is also at the archives. The 7" also includes "Gee Whiz" - an original from 1958. Not sure the source of that.

The person who wrote the Rolling Stone review is, apparently, writing a biography of Lou, and in the article he hints that he's familiar with the archives. My best guess is that he's he has listened to it at the NYPL and just didn't realize that "Put Your Money Down On The Table" isn't on the release. Still a bit of a mystery why they excluded that one song. Perhaps there was some issue with the rights?

[Kill Mick]

Light in the Attic announced that the music will be streaming this Friday and that there will be a "surprise" with the physical stuff coming in October.

Yes, I get that Don't Think Twice is from the bonus 7" (and apparently all 6 tracks from that will also be on the CD), I was just making the point that both reviewers weren't basing their reviews solely on the download/streaming versions. Maybe Put Your Money Down is the surprise mentioned above?

[hkmartin]

Light in the Attic announced that the music will be streaming this Friday and that there will be a "surprise" with the physical stuff coming in October.

Yes, I get that Don't Think Twice is from the bonus 7" (and apparently all 6 tracks from that will also be on the CD), I was just making the point that both reviewers weren't basing their reviews solely on the download/streaming versions. Maybe Put Your Money Down is the surprise mentioned above?

My physical copy was delivered just a few minutes ago. I ordered it before the listing actually went live on the LITA website - I had found the listing by hacking the url. I assume I was one of the first people to order it, so I might be among the earliest of the general public to receive it. I got the deluxe vinyl, and it's a nice package. I haven't listened to any of the physical release yet, nor have I had a chance to read the booklet.

If there's a surprise included, I haven't found it yet. I had forgotten about the reproduction letter from Lou to Delmore, but that's listed on the LITA website, so I guess that's not the surprise.

So, yeah, I have the physical copy in front of me, and, unless it's a hidden track I haven't gotten to yet, I can't figure out what the surprise is. Perhaps the surprise is a surprise announcement on the official release day?

[hkmartin]

It seems that the not-very-exciting "surprise" from Light In The Attic is that the same "early Lou" material included in the physical release (Don't Think Twice, etc.) is now also streaming.

[I am the table!]

I think the "surprise" is that judging by his sleevenotes, Greil Marcus is under the misapprehension that John Cale played on "The Ostrich". FFS.

[MartinVU]

Got the standard vinyl version yesterday. A pit pricey but very nice packaging and pressing. They refer to NYC as "ny" which is kind of funny but besides this and the mentioned mistake with Cale & the Ostrich it all looks good.

Regarding "Put Your Money Down on the Table" it is mentioned in the liner notes that they left it off since Lou and John's harmonies were off (as in not in harmony). They say the tape has two very different sides seemingly recorded at different times. Side 1 is more formal, with "words & music by Lou Reed" etc, and side 2 more laid back, with people talking in the background etc. It doesn't say which songs are from which side, just that "put your money" and the rest of the songs from side 2 can be listened to at the library. It's also mentioned that there exist another demo version of Buttercup song where Sterling is also playing (maybe the demo that was sent to England?).

I like this album a lot more than I thought I would. Especially Buttercup song, Stockpile, Men of Good Fortune and Buzz Buzz Buzz. Most songs are kind of throw away's but still very enjoyable to listen to. I listened to the bonus 7-inch online but didn't find that very interesting though.