5th Ave...'68 Joel Meyerowitz Photograph

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5th Ave...'68 Joel Meyerowitz Photograph

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Firstly thanks to Joel Meyerowitz for sharing this great image and to Google for making this possible - considering how closely the VU are linked with New York there aren't that many images of them out in the wild. OK so i'm a bit of a location geek and i had a few hours to kill so I was intrigued as to whether the exact location could be found for this amazing photo. I didn't really think the location might even exist anymore given New York's thirst for new development. 5th Ave is a long long street so wasn't entirely convinced that even if some of the buildings still stood I would be able to find the exact spot.

The main clues were the large glass windows behind John & Lou that look like a 1950/60s building possibly a bank or office. Behind them is an older block which comes out into the pavement. Between the glass building and the back building there is a road but it isn't a major junction / that wide and this also helped secure the location. The key though was the distinct building in the background and that's what I looked for first. A bit of Photoshop to check and the back building seems to fit exactly, not surprisingly there's a different business operating there but the size of the company advertising sign is the same and the stone mouldings match the 1968 photo. The glass fronted building hasn't changed much at all in 45 years, the black strip at the bottom of the buildings still can be seen, the stone mouldings and the window frame sizes match the 68 scene. The glass building is now listed as the 'Israel Discount Bank of New York'. I was quite surprised how little has changed in this scene considering this was 45 years ago.

Lou & John are walking south down 5th Ave they are about to approach W 42nd St on their right then pass the NY Public Library on their right. The address is 511, 5th Ave, New York, NY 10017 (Midtown Manhattan) excuse me if that's not the exact correct format. Anyone want to work out where in relation to their trip to Tom Wilson this was?

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? Joel Meyerowitz 1968

This is the wide view of the location which is on the left hand side of 5th Ave (looking North)

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Lou & John are about 4 panes along the building so are between the guy in the red top and the tree.

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Very well done, Bleach! Very impressive detective work.
Love the superimposed Lou and John on the modern day photo! Like ghosts from the past........
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Love it!! Well done man!!

There are some Billy name shoots (VU 2013 little book) showing Lou with the same QANTAS bag and wearing the same jacket ? taken at ?Bennett Cerf?s Office Random House 1967? (something related to Andy´s Index Book?)

As I said in the other post they met Tom Wilson at WABC-FM radio station studios in NY, I think were located above Pennsylvania Station in MId Manhattan (7th-8th Ave between 31st and 33rd)
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Great sleuthing job... very well done!!

Now, can you take it to the next level? What time and day was the picture taken? I'm guessing 3.45 pm on a Thursday in early Spring.
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Bob Egan at Popspots.com would be proud!
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alfredovu wrote:Love it!! Well done man!!

There are some Billy name shoots (VU 2013 little book) showing Lou with the same QANTAS bag and wearing the same jacket ? taken at ?Bennett Cerf?s Office Random House 1967? (something related to Andy´s Index Book?)

As I said in the other post they met Tom Wilson at WABC-FM radio station studios in NY, I think were located above Pennsylvania Station in MId Manhattan (7th-8th Ave between 31st and 33rd)

Love to see that image
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Here you go... Copyright by BILLY NAME

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The links seem to be broken
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